tfh
Volume 17, Number 24 -- June 16, 2008

Reader Feedback on Forget About Platforms, Let's Talk About Jobs

Published: June 16, 2008

by Timothy Prickett Morgan

You live, you learn. And most of the time, it is a collective effort, whether we all want to admit it or not. I didn't claim to be the king of the job posting engines of the world in last week's story, Forget About Platforms, Let's Talk About Jobs. In that story, I queried the big three job sites in the States--Dice, CareerBuilder, and Monster--for jobs that had been posted within the past 30 days and ranked job hits by various terms.

The AS/400 and the iSeries did not do so well when ranked against other platforms, and RPG and COBOL were far less prevalent than Java, C++, C#, and other programming languages. As it turns out, I may have inadvertently suppressed the AS/400 platform, according to one reader, who actually looks for AS/400 jobs for a living. Check out his feedback, and a few others:


Tim:

From one who is scouring the Web sources for work and has been for a long time especially since his primary target market is in major decline, I suggest the following: Use "AS400" not "AS/400." The search engines choke on the slash. You will find five to 15 times as many "AS400" responses as you will "iSeries" responses. And that's on search engines that it's easier to do single searches by system time than to use "or" logic like command line with indeed.com, which is a really nice aggregating search engine.

--Don


I am as fascinated by the "word cloud" concept as you are. I have played the language count game on Dice since 2000, where there were a total of 59,000 jobs. Total jobs dropped below 24,000 during the dot-com blowout, and is now up to 91,000 today.

In fact, it was just this kind of analysis that convinced me to learn Java, which provided at least three years of revenue during those lean years. Several of my RPG programmer friends said they would get out of programming rather than learn Java, and they have. I don't think there are as many active RPG practitioners as the box count would suggest. Operating system popularity seems to be consistent with my gut feel from Web and magazine article reading. I think Gartner once predicted a bi-polar world of Java and .NET.

One thing I have learned while job searching recently: By adding "AND NOT SAP AND NOT ORACLE" to my search term, it cuts down the list results and reduces my frustration at not having learned those applications years ago. At age 60, it is not worth doing making the effort to learn them now, I will be content to help customers de-commission their AS/400 custom, poorly coded legacies as they move to the those packages and others. It's been a good run since 1982, and while I don't blame IBM for treating the midrange platform like a cash cow on the Power Systems, there is no love lost either. Waste of emotional energy to love something that can't love you back.

--Doug


It's about jobs. I've left the System i market after more than 30 years in the IBM midrange space as both an IBMer and self-employed independent software vendor. My new IT job offers big challenges, the opportunity for creative thinking, and substantial personal responsibility. It's a huge step up and forward.

The System i isn't stagnant, it's decaying.

--Reeve


OK, so that was depressing, Doug and Reeve. Thanks? HA!

Next week, I will look at this indeed.com job search aggregation site and also take Don's advice on "AS400" searches and see how the data changes and redo the word clouds.

--TPM


RELATED STORIES

Forget About Platforms, Let's Talk About Jobs

Server Branding 101: Big Name, Big Game?

A Word Cloud of IBM Server Brand Names



                     Post this story to del.icio.us
               Post this story to Digg
    Post this story to Slashdot


Sponsored By
LOOKSOFTWARE

SNAP...PLUG YOUR I APPLICATIONS INTO ANY OTHER APPLICATION!

snap's plug and play approach means you can snap your i application components into virtually any other leading platform, without having to change a line of code.

This snap webcast demonstrates:
Creating component level access to traditional i apps, without changing a line of code
Reusing existing applications using UI containers and web services
Plugging traditional i apps into leading front-ends like Microsoft Outlook and SharePoint

Benefits include:

1) Reuse of existing i investments, thereby:
reducing the risk associated with change
reducing training costs
increasing productivity
reducing implementation times
improving project success
reducing carbon emissions

2) Easy integration with:
leading front-ends, MS Office, SharePoint, Lotus Notes, Websphere Portal and Google
other apps like SAP, MS Dynamics and any application that supports web services
web service compliant systems and devices like Unified Communication Systems

3) Reuse snap components in any web services compliant development environment including .NET and J2EE

4) Improve acceptance of i applications

5) Unified view, improved UX

6) Streamline workflow and automate business processes

Register here to view the video NOW

www.looksoftware.com


Editor: Timothy Prickett Morgan
Contributing Editors: Dan Burger, Joe Hertvik, Brian Kelly, Shannon O'Donnell,
Mary Lou Roberts, Victor Rozek, Kevin Vandever, Hesh Wiener, Alex Woodie
Publisher and Advertising Director: Jenny Thomas
Advertising Sales Representative: Kim Reed
Contact the Editors: To contact anyone on the IT Jungle Team
Go to our contacts page and send us a message.

Sponsored Links

OCEAN:  Technical conference, June 30, 2008, Irvine, CA
RJS Software Systems:  Spring Sale! Savings on WebDocs and Value Bundles
COMMON:  Join us at the Focus 2008 workshop conference, October 5 - 8, in San Francisco, California

 

 

IT Jungle Store Top Book Picks

Easy Steps to Internet Programming for AS/400, iSeries, and System i: List Price, $49.95
Getting Started with PHP for i5/OS: List Price, $59.95
The System i RPG & RPG IV Tutorial and Lab Exercises: List Price, $59.95
The System i Pocket RPG & RPG IV Guide: List Price, $69.95
The iSeries Pocket Database Guide: List Price, $59.00
The iSeries Pocket Developers' Guide: List Price, $59.00
The iSeries Pocket SQL Guide: List Price, $59.00
The iSeries Pocket Query Guide: List Price, $49.00
The iSeries Pocket WebFacing Primer: List Price, $39.00
Migrating to WebSphere Express for iSeries: List Price, $49.00
iSeries Express Web Implementer's Guide: List Price, $59.00
Getting Started with WebSphere Development Studio for iSeries: List Price, $79.95
Getting Started With WebSphere Development Studio Client for iSeries: List Price, $89.00
Getting Started with WebSphere Express for iSeries: List Price, $49.00
WebFacing Application Design and Development Guide: List Price, $55.00
Can the AS/400 Survive IBM?: List Price, $49.00
The All-Everything Machine: List Price, $29.95
Chip Wars: List Price, $29.95


 
The Linux Beacon
How's Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 Doing?

AMD Finishes Off Quad Cores with Budapest Opterons

Forget About Platforms, Let's Talk About Jobs

As I See It: Citizen CEO

Looks Like Unisys Is Reselling Sun's X4600 Opteron Boxes

Four Hundred Stuff
Bank's Approach to Biometric Authentication a 'Valid' One

Programmer Conveniences Added to BCD's WebSmart ILE

ASNA Brings RPG to .NET Migration Software to Latest Windows IDE

Safestone Re-emerges with New Corporate Identity, i OS Security Tools

NetManage and HiT Software Partner for Structured Data

Big Iron
The Back and Forth of the PSI-IBM Lawsuit

Top Mainframe Stories From Around the Web

Chats, Webinars, Seminars, Shows, and Other Happenings

Four Hundred Guru
Keeping 5250 Alive

Seeking Advice on REXX

Admin Alert: All About the System i Attention Light

System i PTF Guide
June 7, 2008: Volume 10, Number 23

May 31, 2008: Volume 10, Number 22

May 24, 2008: Volume 10, Number 21

May 17, 2008: Volume 10, Number 20

May 10, 2008: Volume 10, Number 19

May 3, 2008: Volume 10, Number 18

The Windows Observer
Muglia Leads Off Week Two of Tech Ed

Fixes for Critical Security Flaws Issued by Microsoft

New Windows Clustering Capability Has HA Partners Shifting Gears

Stratus Builds Its First HA Clustering Product Atop Xen

Icahn Pushes Micro-Hoo in a Series of Letters

The Unix Guardian
The Power 595 Takes the Top TPC-C Benchmark Ranking

AMD Offers Clock Cranks on Barcelona Opterons

Forget About Platforms, Let's Talk About Jobs

As I See It: Citizen CEO

IBM Is Enjoying the Role of Green Giant

Four Hundred Monitor
Four Hundred Monitor's
Full iSeries Events Calendar

THIS ISSUE SPONSORED BY:

looksoftware
Aldon
BCD
Vision Solutions
COMMON


Printer Friendly Version


TABLE OF CONTENTS
Happy 20th Birthday, AS/400!

The Power 595 Takes the Top TPC-C Benchmark Ranking

The World Can't Get Enough Disk Array Capacity

Mad Dog 21/21: iPhone Home

IBM Is Enjoying the Role of Green Giant

But Wait, There's More:

Reader Feedback on Forget About Platforms, Let's Talk About Jobs . . . Another i5/OS-i Security Vulnerability Surfaces . . . There's Still Money in Operating Systems, But Disruptions Loom . . . SPEC Members Start on Energy Benchmark for Web Servers . . . Enterprises Are Judged by the Measure of IT Performance . . .

The Four Hundred

BACK ISSUES





 
Subscription Information:
You can unsubscribe, change your email address, or sign up for any of IT Jungle's free e-newsletters through our Web site at http://www.itjungle.com/sub/subscribe.html.

Copyright © 1996-2008 Guild Companies, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Guild Companies, Inc., 50 Park Terrace East, Suite 8F, New York, NY 10034

Privacy Statement