• The Four Hundred
  • Subscribe
  • Media Kit
  • Contributors
  • About Us
  • Contact
Menu
  • The Four Hundred
  • Subscribe
  • Media Kit
  • Contributors
  • About Us
  • Contact
  • Inside IBM’s SAP HANA On Power Playbook

    May 21, 2018 Timothy Prickett Morgan

    The Power Systems line is in transition right now, making the jump from Power8 to Power9 processors, and yet the company wants to continue selling applications without having customers wait for the newer chip to be available across the entire Power Systems portfolio. This is a particular problem when it comes to the HANA in-memory database on Power Systems, which IBM is eager to sell given the higher memory capacity and bandwidth that Power9 offers compared to the Xeon processors from Intel.

    To help business partners that are peddling SAP suites on Power, which includes the IBM i platform, in conjunction with or side-by-side with the HANA in-memory system, the offering managers behind the application stack have put together a playbook to help everyone get on the same page.

    In the first quarter just ended, the advice from IBM was to do proofs of concept with HANA on Power9 gear if it was available and then move into production on Power8 for those who could not wait. HANA certification on Power9 was not expected until the second quarter (which is now). Once this HANA certification is available on Power9, then customers have to consider the memory capacity they need on their HANA nodes. With the Power8 chips, thanks to the buffered “Centaur” memory, the capacity per socket tops out at 4 TB, compared to 2 TB per socket for the Power9 for the scale-out versions of the machines – these would be the “ZZ” and “Boston” machines we have discussed here in The Four Hundred. This is still better than the 1.5 TB per socket cap on the “Skylake” Xeon SP Platinum processors from Intel. IBM says that it has tuned up HANA atop its PowerVM hypervisor to work well, and that there are some restrictions (these are not detailed) when running VMware’s ESXi hypervisor on top of X86 chips. IBM also says that it will be able to demonstrate better performance per machine on Power9 versus the Xeons as well as the ability to house 33 percent larger databases. There is some interest in even the new ZZ systems because, depending on the quarter, somewhere between 65 percent and 75 percent of SAP HANA licenses are being sold onto machines with under 6 TB of main memory.

    For those who need the most memory on a modest machine with one or two sockets, then the advice is to get a Power8 box. For those who can get by on 2 TB per node, then the new Power H922 and Power H924 models, which have special discounts available to offer lower prices than regular Power S922 and Power S924 models (which we have not seen yet, by the way). But these machines can only have 25 percent or less of their core capacity activated to run IBM i or AIX workloads. If customers need to have more IBM i or AIX capacity than this, then they are being told to buy plain vanilla Power S922 or Power S924 machines.

    Starting in the second half – and we have heard specifically in the third quarter – IBM will roll out the “Zeppelin” Power E950 (four sockets) and “Fleetwood” Power E980 (eight sockets and 16 sockets) enterprise-class machines, which will offer 4 TB per socket maximum and which will apparently also come in H models with special pricing and configuration for HANA. On these machines, the Elastic Computing On Demand (ECOD) functions of their chipsets will allow IBM i, AIX, and Linux to be configured on the fly on cores, and there is no 25 percent CPW capacity limit for IBM i and AIX on the boxes. The word on the street is that the H models will have “more aggressive pricing and configurations,” and that may mean some customers buy them for SAP HANA, but onload a lot of AIX and IBM i jobs on to the machines, too. But watch it. IBM wants to prevent this and ill have mechanisms to tie discounted capacity to SAP HANA and not free it up for IBM i or AIX.

    Up until now, SAP HANA is certified to run atop Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, but we hear that with SLES 12 SP3, this operating system will have special functions to take full advantage of Power9 chips, which presumably means RHEL 7.4 doesn’t have it as yet.

    RELATED STORIES

    SAP HANA Now Available On IBM Power

    HANA On Power Marches Toward GA

    What HANA on Power Means to IBM i

    SAP Hana For IBM Power Officially In The Works

    IBM Power Systems Can Do Big Data Analytics, Too

    SAP HANA: Just a Sidecar to IBM i, For Now

    HANA on Power? It May Be in the Cards

    Getting Hyper And Converged With IBM i

    Boston Power9s Set To Debut

    Counting The Cost Of IBM i On Power9 Entry Systems

    Bang For The Buck On Power9 Entry Hardware

    The Performance Impact Of Spectre And Meltdown

    The Deal On Power9 Memory For Entry Servers

    Inside IBM’s Power S924 Power9 Entry System

    Drilling Down Into The New Power9 Entry Servers

    At Long Last, IBM i Finally Gets Power9

    IBM Preps Power9 “ZZ” Systems For Imminent Launch

    IBM Readies Mainstream Power9 Iron For Launch

    The AS/400 Lessons Come Back Around With Power9 Systems

    IBM Deal Prices Current Power8 Compute Like Future Power9

    Advice For The Power Systems Shop That Has To Buy Now

    Power9 Big Iron “Fleetwood/Mack” Rumors

    Talking Power9 With IBM Fellow Brad McCredie

    The Power Neine Conundrum

    IBM i And AIX Won’t Get Power9 Until 2018

    Share this:

    • Reddit
    • Facebook
    • LinkedIn
    • Twitter
    • Email

    Tags: Tags: HANA, IBM i, Power 8, Power 9, Power Systems, SAP, Xeon

    Sponsored by
    ARCAD Software

    Embrace VS Code for IBM i Development

    The IBM i development landscape is evolving with modern tools that enhance efficiency and collaboration. Ready to make the move to VS Code for IBM i?

    Join us for this webinar where we’ll showcase how VS Code can serve as a powerful editor for native IBM i code and explore the essential extensions that make it possible.

    In this session, you’ll discover:

    • How ARCAD’s integration with VS Code provides deep metadata insights, allowing developers to assess the impact of their changes upfront.
    • The role of Git in enabling seamless collaboration between developers using tools like SEU, RDi, and VS Code.
    • Powerful extensions for code quality, security, impact analysis, smart build, and automated RPG conversion to Free Form.
    • How non-IBM i developers can now contribute to IBM i projects without prior knowledge of its specifics, while ensuring full control over their changes.

    The future of IBM i development is here. Let ARCAD be your guide!

    Watch Now

    Share this:

    • Reddit
    • Facebook
    • LinkedIn
    • Twitter
    • Email

    Getting Hyper And Converged With IBM i Big Blue Gives IBM i Shops A Special 30th Birthday Bash Box

    Leave a Reply Cancel reply

TFH Volume: 28 Issue: 37

This Issue Sponsored By

  • Fresche Solutions
  • UCG TECHNOLOGIES
  • Software Concepts
  • MiTEC 2018
  • LUG

Table of Contents

  • Syncsort Acquires Townsend’s IBM i Encryption Software
  • Past And Future Collide At PowerUp 18
  • Guru: How To Override Query Options
  • Big Blue Gives IBM i Shops A Special 30th Birthday Bash Box
  • Inside IBM’s SAP HANA On Power Playbook

Content archive

  • The Four Hundred
  • Four Hundred Stuff
  • Four Hundred Guru

Recent Posts

  • Liam Allan Shares What’s Coming Next With Code For IBM i
  • From Stable To Scalable: Visual LANSA 16 Powers IBM i Growth – Launching July 8
  • VS Code Will Be The Heart Of The Modern IBM i Platform
  • The AS/400: A 37-Year-Old Dog That Loves To Learn New Tricks
  • IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 27, Number 25
  • Meet The Next Gen Of IBMers Helping To Build IBM i
  • Looks Like IBM Is Building A Linux-Like PASE For IBM i After All
  • Will Independent IBM i Clouds Survive PowerVS?
  • Now, IBM Is Jacking Up Hardware Maintenance Prices
  • IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 27, Number 24

Subscribe

To get news from IT Jungle sent to your inbox every week, subscribe to our newsletter.

Pages

  • About Us
  • Contact
  • Contributors
  • Four Hundred Monitor
  • IBM i PTF Guide
  • Media Kit
  • Subscribe

Search

Copyright © 2025 IT Jungle